Campaigners say: Most people see the hotel from Church Road so only see the front section (shown in green). Few people are aware that the building goes a long way back from Church Road.
All the parts shown in green and orange are the original hotel and have been there for over 160 years. This is where some of the visitors to the Crystal Palace would have stayed. The parts shown in purple were added in the 1970s.
The hotel plans to demolish everything shown here in orange, and replace it with new buildings and a paid underground car park. It’s hard to convey how big these new buildings will be, but they really will be huge.
The 1970s buildings will be kept and given new external cladding. Imagery ©2017 Google, Map Data ©2017 Google
RESIDENTS OPPOSITION TO QUEENS HOTEL PLANS – 63 PER CENT ROOMS INCREASE PLANNED
Residents living near the Queens hotel on Church Road have set up a group opposing extension plans for the historic building.
The Fitzroy Wakefield Action Group – made up of residents of Fitzroy Gardens and Wakefield Gardens which are to the left and to the rear of the hotel – say when they first heard of the proposals many of them hoped for a project that would bring the hotel up to a higher standard.
“But now we’re worried about the quality and the potential impact of the project.
“The Queen’s Hotel was built in the 1850s as an L-shaped building in generous grounds. “It is part of the legacy of the Crystal Palace, and many visitors to the Palace stayed here.
“Over the years, parts have been demolished, built on and modified. “A lot of the surrounding land has been sold off for development (including Fitzroy and Wakefield Gardens). “But the heart of the building is still there.
“These are locally listed buildings in a conservation area so are supposed to be protected from further demolition. “But they are now at risk.
“We disagree with the massive size of the development, which has increased since public consultation in October 2016.
“The plan is for 530 rooms — 63 per cent more than at present, more than any major hotel that opened in London last year and more than the 28-storey Park Lane Hilton. “For comparison, the average size of a Travelodge is around 75 rooms. “Premier Inns average around 85.
“A hotel this huge needs services, deliveries and staff accommodation, but there is little mention of how the hotel will manage this impact on the local area.
“This unpopular proposal will overwhelm both the hotel’s original 1850s buildings and our 1960’s estate. “Despite the scale, customers will be crammed in. “Many rooms won’t even have windows.”
Fitzroy Wakefield say they are also concerned for the local heritage.
“The hotel is in a conservation area, which is supposed to be protected. “The plans claim to celebrate the front of the hotel on Church Road but, even there, simple things like new windows not lining up with original ones suggest lack of respect for heritage.
“The rest of the site is marked for demolition as ‘poor quality’. “That’s not how we see it.
“For us, the Victorian hotel buildings are part of what’s special about our streets. “Our 1960s estate is carefully woven between hotel buildings that saw the heyday of the Crystal Palace.
“At the end of one row of gardens, the 1850s stable blocks are to be demolished. “These buildings are part of the legacy of the Crystal Palace.
“We should be thinking very carefully about whether we need to destroy them for this very ordinary hotel project.
“Sadly, the hotel refused to listen to our concerns and modify their plans prior to submission. “It ‘intends’ to retain a boundary wall as a facade but won’t even guarantee this despite continued requests for reassurance.
“We feel that the hotel sees the place where we live as overspill parking and staff quarters. “Concerns about antisocial behaviour and traffic are met halfheartedly and the hotel refuses to respond to repeated pleas from councillors to improve its relationship with our community.”
The group, which is collectively paying for legal and planning experts to review the application and ensure the council has all the information it needs to assess the scheme, say they wish the hotel had paid more attention to their concerns, to the heritage they share with them, and to the impact of their business on Crystal Palace.
“If they had, many of us would be supporting the project today. “As it stands, the only chance we’ve got to influence this project is to ask the council to be strong, stand behind its own policies and refuse permission.
“We don’t want refusal to be the end of the story. “It would give the hotel another chance to engage with local residents and develop the project into a really high-quality hotel that brings jobs and tourism to Croydon, respects our heritage and brings something positive to the community.
“We want our local hotel to be somewhere we can recommend to friends and family, with facilities people who live nearby can use — and to be somewhere we can be proud of.”
TWO HOUSES in Fitzroy Gardens have recently been the subject of planning applications to Croydon council.
These were: Erection of single storey rear extension and re instatement of window at rear at first floor level at 14 Fitzroy Gardens (application 17/01997/HSE) and Alterations and use of garage as habitable room and erection of single storey front and rear extension at 18 Fitzroy Gardens (Application 17/00831/HSE).
Letters from Croydon council officers on the croydon.gov planning website dated June 8th and June 9th now indicate both applications have been withdrawn.
One of the applications (14) were made by Meher Nawab on behalf of UK Housing Partnership Ltd whose registered office address is given on the applications as Lynton House, Clapham Common South Side, the other (18), at the time of writing, is unavailable.
The registered office of Euro (Queens Hotel) Ltd as given by Companies House is Lynton House, 54 Clapham Common South Side.
Note: News From Crystal Palace understands Norwood Society are also objecting to the proposals. Full details when we have them – Ed.
Full application is as follows: 17/02192/FUL | Demolition of existing buildings to the centre and rear of the site and existing extensions to the roof, and the construction of a new spine building, an extension from the southwestern facing elevation of the existing locally listed building, a single storey extension to the restaurant, subterranean accommodation which provides parking, a swimming pool and servicing space, to create a total of 530 hotel rooms and 170 vehicle parking spaces, the re-cladding of the 1970’s extension, provision of enhanced landscaping across the site including 3 coach parking spaces to the front, and the adaption of existing entrance to the hotel | Queens Hotel 122 Church Road Upper Norwood London SE19 2UG